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CONSUMER ALERT

  Avoid dealing with salespeople who:

  • Disparage other products or firms.
  • Confuse you, abuse your trust, or exploit your lack of experience orAlert knowledge.
  • Try to make you cancel a contract made with another salesperson.
  • Falsely tell you they're taking a survey or you've just won a contest.

  Avoid dealing with companies that:

  • Charge a substantial entry fee (more than the cost of a sales kit).
  • Pressure you to purchase large quantities of products.
  • Do not repurchase inventory if you decide to leave the business.
  • Sell few or no products to consumers.


Things you should know about pyramid schemes

  • They are losers. Pyramiding is based on simple mathematics: many losers pay a few winners.
  • They are fraudulent. Participants in a pyramid scheme are, consciously or unconsciously, deceiving those they recruit. Few would pay to join if the diminishing odds were explained to them.
  • They are illegal. There is a real risk that a pyramid operation will be closed down by law enforcement officials and the participants subject to fines and possible arrest.
                            

Pyramid Selling - Lampeberger FITS THE DESCRIPTION!

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DIFFERENCES BETWEEN LEGITIMATE DIRECT SELLING COMPANIES COMPANIES AND PYRAMID SCHEMES

Legitimate Direct Selling Companies

Pyramid Schemes

1.

The start-up fee for all ethical multi-level selling companies is generally low, primarily to cover training materials, sales aids or demonstration kits.

Pyramid schemes often disguise high entry fees as part of the price charged for required purchases of training, product inventory etc. Pyramid schemes make virtually all their profits from recruiting.

2.

Such companies sell a wide range of quality products to the general public. The bulk of the sales are on repeat sales form satisfied customers. This is only possible because these companies spend millions on research and development to develop quality products.

Pyramid schemes are frequently disguised to appear as legitimate direct selling companies. Such schemes are not interested in marketing these products which are of dubious value. Instead, money is made in typical pyramid fashion, from recruiting, with new distributors being pushed to purchase high cost/large inventory when they sign up.

3.

Many companies have a 100 percent money-back guarantee. Dissatisfied users (and there are relatively few) could exchange the products back for money or for an equivalent amount in other products.

Pyramid schemes will not buy back unsold inventory. Such schemes will collapse very quickly if there is this condition for re-purchase of goods.

4.

These companies are interested in long-term business. In every country that they operate, this criterion is important because the companies have an obligation to their distributors who are small businessmen in their own rights.

Pyramid schemes are get-rich quick schemes. The nature of the pyramids, in which large numbers of people at the bottom of the pyramid pay money to a few people at the top, clearly explains why the scheme cannot sustain itself for long.

5.

Recognition of achievement is based on efforts. This means that a distributor's income is commensurate with the efforts he/she puts into the business.

Position could be purchased.

6.

Established companies depend on selling to customers quality products which offer value for money in order to establish a market.

Pyramid schemes are not concerned with repeat sales to users of the products. Profits are made on volume sales to new recruits who buy the products not because they are useful or attractively priced, but because they must buy them to participate in the scheme. As a result, new participants are stuck with products that are way below the market value in relation to the high entry fees paid by them. Should the pyramid scheme collapse, there is no way for the participants to recover their "investments".

7.

These companies build up networks of independent distributors to sell products.

Promoters of a pyramid scheme are engaging in fraud, knowingly deceiving participants in the schemes.

8.

They have strict Rules of Conduct which, among other things, forbids its distributors to load up on inventory.

Participants in a pyramid scheme have no choice but indulge in inventory loading/high fees to participate.

9.

Distributors sell products and or services.

Participation is essentially based on recruiting, not necessarily on the sale of products or services.

10.

Direct selling is a popular method of retailing which is recognised as a lawful and legitimate business in many countries including the U.S.

Pyramid schemes have been outlawed throughout the United States and many countries many countries around the world.

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Essential Oil Scam in Taiwan

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The land of the fighting lawmakers, Taiwan, has recently broken a news about a disabled family (yes, this means the entire family consists of disabled members) fallen prey to the ever-growing essential oil scam in the region.

Apparently, a former Pro Baseball player known as “Little Guy” has cheated the family over NT$ 3 million, which is about Malaysian Ringgit 300,000.00. While this may not be a huge sum of money for certain people, it literally bankrupted the poor family based in Gaoshiong.

The product he sold to the family is a certain essential oil that has healing effect.

While fellow blogazine editor works hard to find someone to help us substantiate the claims of the miraculous healing factor of the horrendously expensive oil, there are people in Malaysia who seem to be happy burning money away too.

In fact, if you look closely at the screenshot shown above, you’d notice the logo of the products the family bought (we have highlighted the products in RED boxes) looks conspicuously like a famous essential oil brand that is also making waves in Malaysia, known as Lampe Berger.

Too many people are confused

Pyramid schemes nowadays they come in so many forms that they may be difficult for us to recognize it immediately. And not to say about all the new comers(especially all the new members in DCHL), they are not capable of doing it so because most of them are blinded by their own greed since they are still new to all the big numbers that had been shown to them by their up-lines and by their BOT(Business-Opportunity-Talk) presentation. To spot out an illegitimate MLM company, it requires a certain level of knowledge in this industry and it needs a certain period of time to do so. Of course, this kind of knowledge people won't simply share without having any reason to their own benefits. In other words, when someone teaches you all these things, it's like putting money into your pocket. Only those genuine MLM companies will teach and share this kind of knowledge with its fellow distributors under its company in order to improve their knowledge so that they won't fall into other fake MLM companies which promise a much more faster substantial turn-over with less hard-work. (normally a genuine MLM companies' business is harder and slower to build comparing to fake ones, because the turn-over only based on retails and actually selling product to end consumers)

All of the pyramid schemes are sharing one overriding characteristic. They always promise consumers or investors large profits based primarily on recruiting others to join their programs, and are not based on profits from any retail or actual sale of products to the public. Some schemes may seem to sell a product, but they often simply use the product to hide their actual pyramid scheme structure.

There are two signs that a product is simply being used to disguise a pyramid scheme:
i) Inventory loading
ii)Lack of retail sales.

Inventory loading occurs when a company's incentive program forces new distributors to buy more products than they could actually sell, and most often, they are all at inflated prices. If this occurs throughout the company's distribution system, the people at the top of the pyramid reap substantial profits, even though little or no product moves to the public. The people at the bottom make excessive payments for inventory that simply accumulates in their store room. A lack of retail sales is also a sign of that a pyramid exists. Many pyramid schemes will claim that their product is selling like hot cakes. However, on closer examination, the sales occur only between people inside the pyramid structure or to new distributors joining the structure, not to consumers out in the general public.

Well, it's wise not to be easily blinded by our own greed. Although money can make our lifestyle better, but it doesn't mean anything to us. Except only to our own greed. Imagine if we live in this world alone, what does money mean to us? It's nothing to show off when we are alone. It's just because we are living in an organization, and we always compare ourselves to each other, then we tend to feel that money could actually make us live a better lifestyle and to show off sometimes by buying things we don't need, to impress people we don't like. It's really funny, and we could actually feel how childish we actually are when we think about ourselves on these.

The DCHL culture is to love money, and money will love you in return. What a crap of this quote! I went for a talk and there is a guy by the name Wong, giving off an insight of what is MLM. Well, the talk was perfect and it was really an eye-opening to all the new comers to the MLM industry. But in fact, all the MLM companies do the same including all the genuine ones. Except for the way they sell their products. And the way they distribute and as well as teaching their distributors the real moral value based on humanitarian ground. As we hear-said, most of the dukes in DCHL they earn money from those misery people. It's sad why people could be easily blinded by their own greed. I think it's time for us to stop this kind of trap on all those youngsters and inexperience MLMers.

All the best to those who have been putting up hard work going against the DCHL/SYN network distribution so far. Great job! We will never give up and will be on-looking for any more of this kind of pyramid schemes in the public. We should make a proper study, investigate and keep our eyes on any new MLM company coming into the market.


--taken from Too many people are confused

Head hunting - DCHL

I have studied many so-called “multi-level marketing” companies before I joined Shaklee faithfully. I know and I can bet my life that Shaklee, as is with Amway and Elken, is not a Pyramid Scheme.

Companies such as Quest International and Digital Crown Holdings Limited (DCHL) are amongst the many pyramid schemes around. In general, pyramid schemes are those that promote recruiting or “head-hunting”, and not selling. These companies would usually impose a high startup fee, usually amounting from hundreds to thousands of dollars, and distributors can simply earn a percentage from recruiting prospects. There is no actual “sales” and these activities are deemed unethical. In Shaklee and Amway, distributors DO NOT earn anything from recruiting, but only through their sales.

The joining fee is at a minimal and includes the processing fee as well as the starter kit. Shaklee is a legitimate network marketing company, and is reviewed and studied by many lawyers worldwide. Accusing Shaklee or even Amway as a pyramid scheme is inappropriate and unacceptable.

I do not know whether you’re one of those conspiracy theorists around, or maybe you’re from an MLM company which is in competition with Shaklee. If you’re not a certified lawyer who knows the law more than we do, I suggest that you stop accusing Shaklee of being a pyramid scheme, before you invite more trouble.

taken from comment in Will NutriFeron save you from the bird flu?

Guang Ming Daily - 跪求父母借3萬搞直銷 推薦給朋友 列印

青年為了買貨升級
跪求父母借3萬搞直銷 推薦給朋友    列印
updated:2007-07-25 11:33:34 MYT

(吉 隆坡訊)銷售極品薰香精油的直銷公司以高盈利引誘青年社群,令多名剛踏入社會工作的新鮮人無法抗拒同行穿名牌、開名車的誘惑,紛紛向父母借3萬令吉,讓他 們在直銷業平步青雲。這些青年向父親跪地求情,甚至一哭二鬧三上吊四離家出走,父母一時心軟,最終賠上儲蓄多年的養老金。

2名面對同樣經歷的家長週二(24日)向行動黨蕉賴區國會議員陳國偉投訴,直銷公司以“洗腦”手段令孩子執迷不悟。

來自蕉賴舊街場的饒高北(56歲,退休人士)披露,現年24歲的長子原是窗花工人,2005年9月,長子在沒有通知家人的情況下,加入一家位於陽光廣場的直銷公司,自掏腰包2500令吉成為會員。

公司曾借馬賽地房車 Sure or not huh? 

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他說,長子一直自信滿滿地認為自己能在3個月內賺取3萬令吉的收入。他在去年3月正式退休後,兒子看準他可以領取公積金,不斷遊說他拿出3萬令吉,支持兒子買貨升級。

“兒子每天打電話給我,還說為籌錢而失眠,說不想我再辛苦、以後要賺錢養我等。我勸服不了他,最終心軟而提錢出來給他做生意。”

他指出,3萬令吉換來的產品是一大一小的薰香瓶和精油。一年過去,兒子不但賣不出產品,公司也不接收退貨。兒子知道父親的養老金已付諸流水,有一天突然半夜回家向他和妻子道歉,並承諾會每個月攤還金錢給他。

“兒子告訴我,他的上線曾給他穿名牌衣服,還借馬賽地房車給他開,我相信他是被人洗腦,被利益衝昏了頭,才會貿然投資直銷生意。”

他曾告訴兒子,任何工作都必須紮穩基礎,一步一步往上爬才不會跌下來,但兒子卻堅持自見,想要以3萬令吉登上上級位子,最後卻打回原型,甚麼都沒有。

哭求離開不領情
母子關係鬧僵

另一名投訴者曾綠蓉(52歲,銷售員)說,20歲的長子原本是日本餐廳員工,後來有2名同學邀請他參加該直銷公司的激勵課程,課程完畢後,便向她和18歲幼子各借600令吉,成為直銷公司會員。

她披露,2週後,平時內向的長子突然變得伶牙俐嘴,還要求她向親友借3萬令吉讓他創業。她不答應,兒子竟跪在她面前不起來,並揚言要辭掉餐廳工作,全身投入精油直銷業。

“平時。兒子下班後約11點多就會回家,但他自從加入這家直銷公司後,每天不到凌晨2點絕對看不到他的蹤影。我哭著要他離開直銷行業,他並不領情,導致我們現在的關係變得很僵,沒有說話。”

她目前最擔心的,是兒子會否為了這個行業而泥足深陷,向大耳窿借錢買貨。她希望兒子能看清真相,不要一頭栽進去,才發現這個需要會員先墊出3萬令吉的直銷業並不是他所能承擔的。

為得到父親資助
女兒圖上吊自殺
This is MADNESS!!! 

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行動黨蕉賴區國會議員陳國偉聲稱,這家直銷公司曾被貿消部發出警告,而他最近也接獲至少4宗家長投訴同一家精油直銷公司的案例。其中一人的女兒為了要得到父親的資助,不但哭鬧要錢,甚至離家出走及企圖上吊自殺迫使父親就範。

“任何行業都需要循序漸進,不是用錢來捧自己上位。我不否認當中的確有成功賺錢的例子,但這類精油產品是高檔貨,會員必須認識消費水平高的親友,才有辦法把貨品銷出去,否則只會作繭自縛。”

他說,一些繳付3萬令吉買貨升級的會員,為了能夠在短期內得到回酬,不停向身邊的親友推銷昂貴的精油產品,到頭來與親友絕交、人財儘失的下場。

他披露,直銷公司受直銷法令控制,即不能強迫他人購買公司產品。但是,一些業者走法律漏洞,以三寸不爛之舌遊說會員掏錢買貨,許多入息不高的年輕人對賺大錢的生活充滿憧憬,一時心動而拿出鉅款,最後才來懺悔。

他促請有關公司負責人主動與他聯絡,以商討退貨退錢的事項,否則他會集合所有投訴者的資料,向貿消部揭發對方的作業偏差行為,並建議執法組吊銷其真銷執照。 (光明日報•2007.07.25)

SCAM involving Lampe Berger

Tuesday, October 31, 2006

                   

                             

Just got to know yesterday that my cousin joined Digital Crown Holdings (DCHL). She tried to get me to borrow her RM2k. She didn't mention what she was going to use the money for, just saying that it's an emergency.

I remember hearing my dad said that she tried to borrow money from my dad last time for some MLM stuff, so I persisted in asking her why she need the money. She just kept delaying until I just asked her, which company. When I got to know that it's DCHL, I just exploded. I mean, of all the money sucking MLM companies around, why did she have to choose the MOST money sucking one?

Who have not heard of the SCAM involving Lampe Berger? It has been hot topics in forums for a very long time. Newspaper came out with stories of students asking money from their parents to invest in this so called company (without publishing the company's name). Most people know that it's a scam. Why can't my cousin see it also? She's not that young, just one year younger than me.

There's no easy money in this world. I do believe that joining this DCHL company you can make money. A very unethical way of making money at the expense of your downline. You join, you pay the money, get more people to join, you get a part of their "joining fees". Isn't that a sign of pyramid scheme?

I'm just hoping that she lied to me about earning 5 digit income and has over 50 downline under her. Cause she tried again today with my dad, asking him to borrow her RM33k. Saying that she will pay him back next month. Her loan (from where?) had been approved. If she needs RM33k, then I sure hope that she's not in yet, cause RM33k is the amount needed for you to get "Count" level (or so I heard). But she did say that she's trying for "Marquis" level. Darn. Just hope that she will wake up soon.

Enough with the rants, what exactly is Lampe Berger?

The Lampe Berger story begins at the close of the nineteenth century. Sometimes considered as a disinfecting home appliance, sometimes as a decorative item, the Lampe Berger comes across the century, resisting both fashion and an increasing competition, while earning the patronage of such distinguished artists as Coco Chanel and Jean Cocteau.

taken from http://wickywock.blogspot.com/2006_10_01_archive.html

NST : New body idea to clean up image of direct selling

20 July 2007

KUALA LUMPUR: The government will evaluate a proposal to set up a body to govern the direct selling industry in Malaysia.

"We will study it closely as it involves several ministries. It also depends on the products marketed by the companies," Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs Minister Datuk Mohd Shafie Apdal said yesterday.

   He was speaking after opening the Direct Selling Conference 2007 here.

Direct Selling Association of Malaysia president Paul Yee said despite its economic success and positive impact, the industry continued to suffer from negative publicity caused by the unethical practices of a handful of companies.

  Malaysia is ranked fourth in the Asia-Pacific region and 11th largest direct selling market in the world based on statistics compiled by the World Federation of Direct Selling Associations.
 
  Yee said the unethical practices of some companies had tarnished the reputation of the association’s members.

"We appeal to the ministry to review and sanction the move for one body to govern the industry as this will lead to better self-regulation.

  "With greater self-regulation, there will be less need for laws."

More than 400 delegates, including direct-selling associations from Japan, Australia, India and Thailand attended the conference.

Berita Harian : Penjara bagi penganjur skim piramid

20 Julai 2007


KUALA LUMPUR: Penganjur skim piramid yang bertopengkan syarikat jualan langsung akan dikenakan hukuman lebih berat termasuk penjara, apabila undang-undang khas antipiramid diperkenalkan tidak lama lagi.

Menteri Perdagangan Dalam Negeri dan Hal Ehwal Pengguna, Datuk Shafie Apdal, berkata peraturan yang dimasukkan dalam Akta Jualan Langsung 1993 itu akan melindungi serta mengelak pengguna menjadi mangsa penipuan penganjur skim berkenaan.

“Sejak kebelakangan ini, banyak penyelewengan dan penyalahgunaan dilaporkan membabitkan perniagaan jualan langsung,” katanya pada sidang media selepas merasmikan Persidangan Jualan Langsung 2007 di sini, semalam.

Sejak Januari hingga 18 Julai lalu, kementerian itu menarik balik 12 lesen syarikat jualan langsung kerana gagal mematuhi Akta Jualan Langsung 1993 dengan lapan daripadanya menjalankan perniagaan gores dan menang.

Kompaun berjumlah RM927,814 juga dikenakan terhadap 49 kesalahan lain membabitkan akta sama sehingga 15 Julai lalu. Selain itu, kementerian masih menerima laporan mengenai ada syarikat jualan langsung yang tidak menghantar laporan kewangan dan mengedarkan barangan tanpa mendapat kelulusan kementerian.

Shafie berkata, penggubalan undang-undang khas itu adalah sebahagian usaha kementerian untuk menangani dan memantau pelbagai penyelewengan dalam operasi syarikat jualan langsung.

“Undang-undang itu kini diteliti Pejabat Peguam Negara sebelum dibentangkan di Parlimen,” katanya.

Dalam ucapannya, Shafie berkata, industri jualan langsung di negara ini tahun lalu mencatat jualan RM6.6 bilion, meningkat 25 peratus berbanding RM5.3 bilion pada tahun sebelum ini

TheStar | New law to curb pyramid schemes

New law to curb pyramid schemes

KUALA LUMPUR: A new law will be formulated to curb unscrupulous practices through the pyramid scheme in the direct-selling business, Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs Minister Datuk Mohd Shafie Apdal said Thursday.

He said provisions on the new law would be included in the Direct Selling Act 1993.

Shafie said the ministry’s legal advisor was looking into the matter as well as having discussions with the Attorney-General’s office to ensure the new law would encompass all necessary aspects.

“I am optimistic that the move will protect direct-selling activities which are carried out legally in the country,” he told reporters after opening the 2007 Direct Selling Conference here

You Might Be In A Pyramid Scheme If...

- by Scott Lucas @ 2006

Does your Network marketing company have the words "ongoing", "continued", or "regular" in their POLICIES AND PROCEDURES? If they do then you just might be in an illegal pyramid scheme, not a Network marketing company.

Are you being paid more to recruit distributors than to sell product?
If so, then you might be in an illegal pyramid scheme, not a Network marketing company.

Are the products you're selling so high-priced that your family and friends won't buy from you?
If so, then you might be in an illegal pyramid scheme, not a Network marketing company.

Are you selling a product that can easily be bought down the street?
If you are, then you might be in an illegal pyramid scheme, not a Network marketing company.

Does the product you're selling "claim" to grow your arm back, save you more gas mileage, or cure every disease?
If so, then you might be in an illegal pyramid scheme, not a Network marketing company.

Are you or your Network Marketing company making claims on how much money can be made in 3, 7, 10 or 30 days?
If so, then you just might be in an illegal pyramid scheme, not a Network marketing company.

Have you invested money to get product but still have not received it?
If so, then you might be in an illegal pyramid scheme, not a Network marketing company.

Have you invested money to "gift" money?
If you did, then you might be in an illegal pyramid scheme, not a Network marketing company.

Are you putting money into a program every month hoping you'll get it back - plus interest - in 10, 20 or 30 years?
If you are, then you might be in an illegal pyramid scheme, not a Network marketing company.

Have you invested $500, $1,000, $5,000, $10,000 or more to "buy" your way to the top of the company?
If you did, then you might be in an illegal pyramid scheme, not a Network marketing company.

If your company "moved" a group of distributor(s) from one organization to another, then you might be in an illegal pyramid scheme, not a Network marketing company.

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Scott Lucas, The MLM Whistleblower, is a member of the MLM Distributor Rights Association and a Mentor with Mentoring ForFree, Inc. Visit http://www.MLM-Whistleblower.com/mas and you'll get an ebook worth $37 at no cost!

DSAS FAQ

What is a pyramid scheme?

A pyramid scheme is one which profits from the act of recruitment and not from the sale of products. Pyramid schemes are illegal scams in which people pay large sums of money for the chance to participate in the scheme. The money they pay to participate will entitle them to start at the bottom of the pyramid while the money then goes to a few people at the top. Each new participant pays for the chance to advance to the top and profit from payments of others who might join later. With time, the pyramid may collapse long before you reach the top you'll eventually run out of a never-ending supply of new and willing participants.

If there are any products sold as part of the pyramid scheme, they are usually of low quality and often without a buy-back guarantee. In addition, these products do not have an intrinsic value of their own and is only purchased as a requirement to participate in the scheme.
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How do we differentiate between a legitimate business and a disguised pyramid scheme?

Pyramid schemes seek to make money from you (and quickly). Multi-level Marketing companies seek to make money with you as you build your business (and theirs) selling consumer products. Before you sign up with a company, investigate carefully.

A good way to begin is to ask yourself these three questions:

A.    How much are you required to pay to become a distributor?
The start-up fee in Multi-level companies is generally small (usually for a sales kit sold at or below company cost). These companies want to make it easy and inexpensive for you to start selling. Pyramid schemes make nearly all of their profit on signing up new recruits. Therefore, the cost to become a distributor is usually high.

B.    Will the company buy back unsold inventory?
Legitimate companies which require inventory purchases will usually "buy back" unsold products if you decide to quit the business. The DSA Code of Ethics require buy-backs for at least 90% of your original cost.

C.    Are the company's products sold to consumers?
Multi-level Marketing (like retailing) depends on selling products to consumers and establishing a market. This requires quality products at a competitive price. Pyramid schemes, on the other hand, are not concerned with sales to end-users. Profits are made on volume sales to new recruits, who purchase the products not for their value but because it is required in order to participate. Inventory purchases should never be more than you can realistically expect to sell or use yourself
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What is DSAS?

DSAS stands for Direct Selling Association of Singapore. It is a trade association founded by a small number of legitimate and reputable direct selling companies. The association was gazetted on 8th October 1976 and serves to represent the interest of legitimate direct selling companies operating in Singapore. It is also a platform for member companies to meet regularly and to discuss matters of mutual interest as well as to interact with other similar organizations in other countries.
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How are MLM activities governed in Singapore?

Multi-level Marketing activities in Singapore are governed by the Multi-level Marketing and Pyramid Selling (Prohibition) Act. The Ministry of Trade and Industry administers the Act.

The original Multi-Level Marketing and Pyramid Selling (Prohibition) Act was first passed in 1973. In June 2000, Parliament approved an amendment to the Act to widen the definition of pyramid selling to catch all business schemes that were multi-level in nature.

However, as not all multi-level marketing techniques are undesirable, the Government concurrently enacted the Multi-Level Marketing and Pyramid Selling (Excluded Schemes and Arrangements) Order (hereafter, referred to as the ‘Exclusion Order') to exclude legitimate businesses from the Act, such as insurance companies, master franchises, and direct selling companies which fulfill certain criteria. This Exclusion Order came into effect on 1 January 2002.

<For more information about the Multi-Level Marketing And Pyramid Selling (Prohibition) Act and the Exclusion Order, please refer to www.dsas.org.sg and click “Singapore Laws">
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What would happen to “innocent victims?

who participated in pyramid schemes unknowingly, and who did not benefit in any way before the scheme closed down?

Under the Act, all persons who participate in pyramid selling will be guilty of and liable to conviction to a fine not exceeding $200,000 or imprisonment for not more than 5 years, or both.

Members of the public should be practice due diligence when considering whether or not to join a direct selling company. They should be especially wary of get-rich-quick schemes and promises of fast and easy money.



for the rest of the FAQ , go to Direct Selling Association of Singapore & Ministry of Trade and Industry

LampeBerger Pyramid Scam!

---taken from USJ forum

Anyone heard of this? It seems there is this pyramid scheme created by a local agent(forgot its name) for LampeBerger products in Malaysia. The agents will import the products and market them though the pyramid scheme. The local agent claim that it is a aroma therapy but checking out the website of LampeBerger, there is no such word as aroma therapy! They are just perfume.

This local agent is copying the tactics employed by one DCHL company in Taiwan who started this pyramid scam in Taiwan some years ago. I understand from my friend in Taiwan that a lot of people had been duped to part with their money. One such perfume cost you more than RM2k. The way to make quick money is to pass the perfume down so that you will earn some money! So this means those who are naive enough(and not good enough to cheat their way) will be the lowest downline, hence they will be the victim of the scam. And those who are sweet-talker will get rich quick!

Interesting enough? Wait till you hear this. The company which operates the distribution (ie the company who created this scam) will not be responsible for any business dealing between uplines and downlines. So they will not be legally liable for the scam! This is because the upline and downline will be treated as a third party business owner and they are just selling these so called aromatherapy products to them. Any cheats done between upline and downline will be none of their business. But the fact is, they teach these uplines how to dupe the downlines. If you are naive enough, you will be the stupid ones who will end up with the perfume products that cost you a bomb.

Not only that, in order to boost their revenue and profit, they will offer the downline a RM30k(it's the same value offered here and Taiwan) package that will get you one or two line above the pyramid. And they will tell you that you can return it for a 90% refund if you decided to stop or you could not sell them to new downline in six months. Sound interesting business isn't it? But wait, there is no black and white to state that from the company. It is just pure verbal offer from your upline to you as it is a deal between you and your upline, remember? So it depends on how trustworthy your upline is(normally they are trustworthy as they will be your relative or close friends), you will not get your refund as your the goods that are sold to you are owned by your upline. So it is at his/her mercy whether to refund it back to you later as promised. And that is when your relative with your upline(relative or best friend) turns sour. Note that he/she might not be able to return the goods back to his upline as well, which is the reason he/she refuse to accept your return. And also Note - the scum(the company) is not involved in the problem at all!

How I know all this? Well, my wife was approached by her best friend for the RM30k package. But then she was smart, she discussed with me, do some research on the net and ask around and got the conclusion that it really is a scam. You have to dupe the people you love in order to get rich quick. Hey, I am not saying it does not work(it will work if you are a good cheat!), but it goes against our conscience.

My wife advised her best friend against joining such scam, but she was already brainwashed(with get rich quick) by her upline and told us what we got from the internet is just a sabotage by some people. And she even asked my wife "Are you scared that I will run away with your money?". This is when my wife scolded her to make her realise that she is jeopardising the relationship because of the scheme.

In the west, LampeBerger products are sold as "perfume", never "aroma therapy". And they are sold only through retail. It is only in this part of the world beginning with Taiwan, that some smart asshole(sorry fo being rude) decided that it is quicker for him to become billionaire through the pyramid scam. Well, the people are also to be blamed as the scum are only attacking their weakness - greed.

Anyway, just would like to share our experience with the pyramid scam so that hopefully, you guys will not be duped into it because of greed.

Why Pyramid Schemes Always Fail?

Interesting math that reveals some of the actual facts and figures of a pyramid scheme collapse. (Table data sourced from Consumers’ Association of Penang)

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Let’s dissect the table above.

1) As you can see on the 10th level, the amount contributed by the members is equivalent to the commission paid out.

2) Needless to say, at the 11th level, the company would not have enough cash to reimburse new members, and this is the point where the pyramid cracks and collapse. Though it could happen way before the 11th layer due to factors such as members bailing out and when members start asking for return of their “investment”.

3) Notice also if you continue to increase the number of members until the 21st layer, you should have the entire Earth’s population under your belt, which I can assure is absurd, but nobody in the scheme is going to tell you this calculation.

4) Also, there are companies that device various formulas to slow down the collapse, such as delaying the commission paid out to the 4th layer onwards or design various conditions where the new recruits will need to fulfil before their commission kicks in. These are just steps to slow down the collapse, so in short- it’s still going to collapse!

5) When you are in such schemes, there’s virtually no way to find out which level you are in. You can try asking that question in one of those motivational talks held by such pyramid-schemed companies. I am not sure what reply you are going to get, but I am sure it’s not going to be favourable.

Nope, the aliens did not invent this pyramid. I guess they never thought human beings would fell for it. :-P

There’s absolutely no wealth or value created in a pyramid scheme, the wealth is the same before and after the system is established. There’s only a transfer of wealth from the top to bottom, where the top gained and bottom losses.

I hope that the table above can answer some of your questions on the validity of a pyramid-schemed business model.

Have you ever been gulled?

Ten Big Lies of MLM:

Robert L. Fitzpatrick on the Ten Big Lies of MLM:

 

Lie #1: MLM offers better opportunities than all other conventional business and professional models for making large amounts of money. 

Lie #2: Network marketing is the most popular and effective new way to bring products to market. Consumers like to buy products on a one-to-one basis in the MLM model. 

Lie #3: Eventually all products will be sold by MLM. Retail stores, shopping malls, catalogs and most forms of advertising will soon be rendered obsolete by MLM. 

Lie #4: MLM is a new way of life that offers happiness and fulfillment. It provides a way to attain all the good things in life. 

Lie #5: MLM is a spiritual movement. 

Lie #6: Success in MLM is easy. Friends and relatives are the natural prospects. Those who love and support you will become your life-time customers.
 
Lie #7: You can do MLM in your spare time. As a business, it offers the greatest flexibility and personal freedom of time. A few hours a week can earn a significant supplemental income and may grow to a very large income, making other work unnecessary. 

Lie #8: MLM is a positive, supportive new business that affirms the human spirit and personal freedom.

Lie #9: MLM is the best option for owning your own business and attaining real economic independence.

 Lie #10: MLM is not a pyramid scheme because products are sold.

Malaysians ChinaPress newspaper

Direct seller convinced school leavers to invest in get rich quick scheme

(KL 28th)Some multilevel marketing company salesmen using dirty tricks to fool inexperienced school leavers to invest a large sum of money into get rich quick scheme!

The direct seller, for his own purpose to get rich quick, always choose school leavers as prey, trick them to join company, after becoming member, pay a large sum of money to purchase company product for the purpose to build a business.

As a result, a lot of school leavers became members, and borrow money from relatives to invest in the business, after the reality turned out to be different from what they hoped, and discovered that they are unable to have refund back for the money they invested according to the contract they signed, and lost 10s of thousand of ringgit.

2 cousins from cheras, Mr Chong(22, school leaver) and Ms Chong(22, school leaver), after joined a MLM company last october, their upline convined them to pay RM30k to do investment so they can earn big money in short time.

Mr Chong said, he and his cousin paid RM30k each, including RM2000 of member fee to join the company, discovered that their upline is cheating them, and decided to quit the business this March, but unable to take back the money.

He said, after his upline convinced him to become member, always trying to pursue him to take more money to do bigger investment, so that they can become rich and drive luxury cars, Mr Chong then brought his family to the company to know more about this business.

He said, his upline told him that after invested the money, and within 6 months discovered that this business is not suitable for him, he can quit and collect back 90% of the investment money.

He said, when he joined as member he signed a contract stating that which products can refund and which cannot, however his upline didn't explain this clearly to him.

He pointed out that when he want to buy products, due to the fact that he dont understand the products his upline has recommended him a list of products, which are all non refundable, and he lost RM14000 due to non refundable products.

Meanwhile, Ms Chong said, she joined the direct sale via her friends, after that she introduced her cousin to join the business too, and when we discovered that our upline is trying to cheat us, and decided to quit, we were informed that our products are non refundable and caused us to lost 90% of our money.

She said, her situation is different from her cousin, when buying the product her mother is helping her to pick most of the refundable products, but her upline is playing dirty tricks, as a result she only able to get refund of RM16000, and lost RM14000.

Chong cousins hope that noone else will be fallen into this trap and complained to MCA cheras.

Wu Xin Yi suggesting consumer department to set law to monitor direct sale company

MCA Cheras, Wu Xin Yi suggesting Consumer Department to monitor direct sale companies to ensure them not using dirty trick to fool their members.

He said, a lot of people complained and say that some direct sale companies using dirty tricks to fool school leavers to invest a huge sum of money into direct sale business, and caused many school leavers to borprow money from relavites, as a result, business failed, and they have a lot of debts.

He said, this is a big blow to school leavers before even they started to work.

He advises families that have any kids who just finished school and go into the society to stay alert, so that their kids will not become 'prey' of illegal direct seller.

Today he commended on the 2 school leavers lost RM14000 because they trusted their upline.

He said, these direct sellers using "pay more and earn more" theory to trick school leavers, including university graduates, to achieve their own purpose to get rich quick.

He said, actually, according to 1993 direct sale law, after members joined a direct sale company and wanted to quick, they are able to get refund of member fee.

"However, these 2 victims Mr Chong and Ms Chong not knowing this law and their upline didnt inform them about this law, they missed the opportunity to get their refund."

He said, this 2 cases is mainly due to the direct seller personal problem, and not relevant to the direct sale company, therefore he hope that the direct sale company will monitor their members carefully and take action on any direct sellers who spoil the company image.

Meanwhile, he said, according to laws, if the Chong cousins want to take back 90% of the invested money, their changes to win the case is very small.

He hoped that gov can change the existing direct sale law and pass a stricter law to monitor direct sale activities, to prevent more people fallen as victim

Singaporeans be warned !! Caution all your friends now.

I am repeating the message here as I don't know which is the appropriate forum:

Sometime next month, a Company selling the French fragrance products by the name of Lampe Berger will be holding a grand seminar in Sentosa Island to revive their business in Singapore.(note, this time they change the name to SYN(Steven Yeam Network) to give it a fresh start.

They have successfully revived their business in Malaysia targeting on young students and graduates. Recently a few Malaysian newspapers have published complaints by parents about how their children got brainwashed by them and refused to listen from their parents and some even thought of leaving school to go full time in the business. Today's(June 18th) Malaysia China Press have a front page headline news about it. Such news will not affect their business but even helped and motivate their distributors who are all young, naive and rebellious to work harder for it.

They are organising more than 1,000 active young Malaysian agents to come to Singapore together next month to revive their Singapore sales by recruiting younsters. If you have any young adults in your family or young friends, caution them ahead. These are some of their tricks used in recruitment:

a) They will never tell the prospects what products they are selling during the 1st or 2nd business preview. The most they mentioned are "branded goods from France" and the name "LV"

b) They will say products are not important but making money and business is the main aim.

c) A fleet of BMWs and sport cars will be driven and parked together to impress the prospects.

d) They will remind their prospects NOT to tell anyone else until they have joined and paid up because outsiders will not understand their business and tend to give negative effects.

e) If anyone tell them they heard negative feedback from outsiders or any ex-members who left, they will say, "who should you learn from ? The successful ones like us or those failure ones ?"

f) When it come to the products, they will only boost of their over 100 years history in France but they will not tell you that in US and Europe, they are sold as fragrance and perfumes only(check the websites) at only 1/3 of the prices here and NOT as essential oils or aromatherapy products claimed by them.

g) They will use a lot of their successful members all well dressed in suits to impress their prospects but they will not tell you that out of every 1 successful, at least another 50 have lost their money and left.

h) They will not tell you the products are simply unpractical and troublesome to use. In fact a check in the websites showed the product is even dangerous. An explosion occured and someone in Taiwan got killed. HK TVB news also made a research and condemned them for cheating but their Company defended by telling their members that HK TVBS already "apologised" to them for the mistake and they forgave them.

i) They will also tell you that some of their fragrance bottles are collectors' items and can appreciate like antiques in future. In order to make you believe, they even display a few units for bidding and obviously their insiders and top-earners will jack up the price to make it believable.

j) They will tell you that you can get a refund up to 90% if you decide to return the unsold stock but most people managed to get back less than half because MOST items are not returnable. They will not tell you fully all which items are not refundable. Most people got caught and lost money because of this trap.

k) They even have lawyers and well-known people among them to give business talk so people tend to believe them easily and don't suspect that they have many "hidden" clauses in their contract.

l) Their business plan is designed in a manner to trick you to purchase the stock in someone else's name(for easier promotion) so that when it comes to return and refund, you will not be able to do it conveniently.

m) They will use their top-earner, a Malaysian by the name of Steven Yeam who is mostly based in HK now to act like a god or cult figure so that more people will adore and follow him blindly.

n) Once you joined, they will have many ways to make you pay more money. Even attending their talk or training, you need to pay. They will not tell you when they invite you. Upon arriving or halfway, they will make you pay.

o) They will make some big donation to some place and make a big publicity out of it to gain support and confidence from the public.

p) They use very high figures and discounts to attract you to buy more stock. Up to as much as 40%. Most people find it diffiult to sell off later.

q) They use lies to motivate their members and prospects. Some examples used are: "They will get listed soon in Malaysia""They will get the Singapore government to close Orchard Road for their rally and also loan them 20 helicopters to sentosa Island""They bought some share or joint-venture with Louis Vuitton in France", etc.

They will have a lot of new tricks and tactics to close a deal and those mentioned above are just a few. So do not underestimate them. Please take it seriously and if you have any friends, please e-mail or inform them with this message before they are victimized. Last I heard of, their Singapore office is in Beach Road but they might have changed now.

Please caution everyone and anyone who find this message useful, please help to circulate or link it to other forums.

Thank you for your attention.

SYN的谜思

这是从antilampeberger那里得到的最新等级价钱:

FORMHD:

什么是FORMHD?在一个SYN的人拉你进入公司前,她会先调查你的FORMHD。这些他会透过和你聊天还有其他人来得到资料。(这方面我觉得很 offense,不过别人也有点难从我或别人口中得到我这方面的资料)对他们来说,知道你得越多,就可以越容易拉你进行。还有他们的原则是不在猎物面前填 写FORMHD表格(他们有个表格要交给上线的,所以在你上线的上线还没见到你时,就已经很了解你,和你谈话时,你好象他能准确地讲出你的问题)。
F是Family(家庭)。他会尝试了解你的家庭背景,你在家里和谁关系比较好,还有你的家庭问题和状况(这两个是最重要的,因为可以打开你的心房)。
O是Occupation(职业)。他会跟他的上线报道你的工作经验,你对目前的工作的满意度,为什么你辞去过去的工作,你家人的工作,你是否参加过任何 MLM,还有你对MLM的看法以及为什么(这对他们来说是很重要的。如果你反对的话,他们会带你去听一些讲座会,然后会找人和你聊;如果你不反对的话,他 们会直接带你去他们的business centre来讲)。
R是Recreational(消遣)。他会想要知道你的嗜好,你平时都在哪里,还有你有赌博吗。
M是Money(钱)。想了解的是你目前的资金状态,你家庭的资金状态,你是从什么样子的收入家庭出生的,你目前的工钱,你是否对目前的工钱满意,你是否欠信用卡钱,还有你是否有个大家庭要支撑。
H是Health(健康)。你或者你的家庭是否有健康问题以及你是否抽烟。
D是Dreams(梦想)。你有什么梦?你的梦要工作多久才能达到?

ABP:
A - Advisor 顾问 (通常是你的上线的上线)
B - Bridge 中间人 (你的上线)
P - Prospect 可能下线 (就是你啦)
D - Passer-by 路人甲 (就是其他同行)
以下是他们的ABP步骤(我找着翻译他们的手册):
B一定要带A4纸和计算机(这就是他们的工作工具)
1. 一定要准时接P。(避免P逃跑)
2. 满足P的要求先。(例如食物,水,以及如厕)
3. 在车里,郑重对P介绍A并叫P把手机关掉。
4. 在到达公司时,带领P四处在公司里走走(并介绍公司)
5. 在公司里,介绍P给其他的D(在公司是最好能够认识多些人)
6. 把P带到A面前,不是把A带到P面前
7. 一定要尊重A和D(不然的话,P将不会尊重A也不会在ABP里注意听)这是非常重要的
8. 把P介绍给A并说明为什么P会在公司里出现
9. 提醒P把手机关掉还有把自己的手机关掉。
10. 当ABP会谈开始时,不要让任何外物打扰会谈以及不要离开会谈。不要接听电话或者玩短讯。
11. B要专心的听A在讲什么。这样不只能让P更投入,而且也能帮助B学习成为A
12. 当ABP在进行时,千万不要更正A(如果有任何更正的话,在私低下做)
13. 每次都要间接的站在A的立场。例如,如果P觉得A很串,你可以间接地帮A说:“A也许很串而且很伤你,但会不会他说的都是真的呢?事实永远都是痛苦的。而A已经帮助了那么多人得到五位数的收入,所以全部人尊敬他。”
14. 如果你发现P不够专心,轻轻的拍一下P并叫他专心点
15. 在演讲完后,如果没有任何问题,B一定要丢出申请表格(看看P的脸部表情。如果P显示吓到的话,收起表格。申请表格是帮助找出P的问题)
16. 不要做呆子B
17. 影响P对加入生意的意愿以及讲出你加入这行生意的原因。(如果P对工作不满意,而且不够钱用,等等,可以说出来并告诉P这是个好机会)
18. 如果P对A撒谎,说出来
19. 当P还需要时间考虑时,A会离开桌子几分钟。这是因为P在A面前也许不好意思说出自己的问题。在这个时候,影响P对生意的看法。
20. 如果P还是有问题,把P带到D面前一起讨论(这是很重要的)
21. 在P还没遇到D之前,说明D的背景
22. 每次都是把P带到D面前,而不是把D带到P面前。一定要尊重D因为D是在尝试帮助你。
23. 给D一点暗示让他知道P的问题。(例如:如果P有RM 2345的问题:“D,上次当你在加入这行生意时,钱是一个问题吗?你怎么拿到你的RM 2,345的?”)
24. 对P下个预防药并封住他的嘴巴(告诉P说外人会“泼冷水”然后说这行生意是不可行的。所以,不要告诉任何人先。这是因为我们有个逐渐增强的系统让我们追随)
25. 在回家途中,把你的个人经验说出来影响P
26. 跟进


ABP时的坐法:
1. 每次都要坐在P的左边(日本文化相信如果坐在P的心脏旁就能拉近关系)
2. 做得离P近点而不是A(这样P才会觉得你是和他一国的)
3. 尝试让P坐在面对墙壁的一方(这样才会减少外扰)

邀请你去听讲座:
这个组织的人问问题就神了!他们在邀请你去所谓的BOT时,不会问说“你明天有没有空?”或者说“你几时有空?”。他们会问说“你星期五晚上还是星期六晚 上有空?”。这招各位可以学学来约女子出来,不错的说。其实呢,每场讲座都要钱,透过讲座,他们都不知道赚了多少钱。还有,他们在邀请你去听时,在之前是 不会对拟透露任何关于他们生意的事的。

我们是在帮人:
你如果遇到SYN的人,他们常常告诉你说他们其实是在帮人。钱是不重要的。他们就是不想你因为钱而加入,他们要的是你的信任,这样你才会心甘情愿的把钱拔 出来。不过他们帮人归帮人,最后还是跟你讲钱的。如果你说加入就为了赚钱,他们会说你这样子的想法错了,因为如果你这样想,那你就不是在帮人,以后你是找 不到人加入的。不过我绝一点的是,就是我一开始就说我只为了赚钱,他们起初还说这样想是不对的,不过到最后显示出他们的真面目,我们只讲钱,不讲帮忙之类 的话。

梦想:
一开始,他们就会问你有什么梦想。如果没有梦想,他们就会给你一个梦想(例如BMW,Benz,LV,etc.)。这招厉害,不管你有什么梦想,他们都会 跟钱联系上,告诉你为什么你要加入他们,并打压着你目前做的事是不能够实现那些梦想的。我呢,就告诉他们一个梦想,就是比其他人好,他们说我肤浅,可是 呢,他们没听我说另外一段,就是做最好的自己。

机会:
机会是他们很常讲到的话。他们会说这是你最后一个机会,错过就没有了。我不相信机会只有一个,也不相信我真的那么bad luck,只有这么一个烂烂的机会。如果你和他们内部的人谈过天,他们常常会说这真的是他们一生中最好的机会,如果没有这种机会的话,他们都不知要该如 何。我觉得给有些人这确实是个机会,不过给很多人这是odeal,还有,如果你在里面不成功可是还觉得他是一个机会的话,我只能说你真的没眼光,不要告诉 我你的机会,因为那是侮辱我的智慧。

同伴:
他们常常会告诉你说,在这个组织里,没有所谓的上下线之分。他们会说组织里的所有人都是生意伙伴。虽然他们口里这么说,可是在presentation时,还是脱口而出uplines, downlines, sidelines这些东东。

关心你:
有些人加入是因为在里面的所有人都关心他们。这是如果你加入以及你还没加入时才会发生的。其实,在你还没听你上线的上线告诉你生意计划时,可以说几乎你遇 见的上线们都已经知道你这个人的存在,你这个人的背景(因为你的上线告诉他们的)。他们还会常常打电话给你,问候你。一个人在盘算着如何拉入某位猎物时, 他也会常常地对那人说些关心的话。

不是卖product:
在还没听讲座时,或者说在讲着business plan时,他们一定会告诉你说他们不是在卖产品,是在卖生意计划,做真正的生意。这简直就是睁眼说瞎话。如果他们不是卖产品的话,怎么会是direct sales工会的一员?还有,他们的business plan其实是base on产品的。Frachisee?你还的钱其实是拿来买产品。

时间管理:
我那位上线朋友常常说他加入这行生意后,学会如何time management。我看到的是,他skip班的次数越来越多,报告越来越迟交。那些上线们也会常常说,一天24小时,上课上到下午3点,读书做功课4 个小时,看电视2个小时,睡觉八个小时,还剩下一两个小时做么不能拿来做呢?他们是这样说的,可是我经历过他们的生活,夜夜高歌,几乎都是晚上才开始工作 的,常要喝茶到凌晨两三点这样。还好我不是常人,不然我早就垮了。除此以外,他们说做这行的人会有多余的时间,其实呢,他们工作时间比平常人多很多,几乎 到哪里都会遇到所谓的colleague还有时时都在权谋如何拉人进来。

良药苦口:
他们会说你在会场以及其他组织里的人口里听到得很不中听,那是因为他们讲的都是真话。他们会说真话是很刺耳的,听到后会觉得很不舒服,这是很平常的事。你要知道,他们其中一个tactics就是disturb你的mind,让你的思绪大乱,然后趁虚而入。

金字塔:
他们很奇怪,说他们不是金字塔模式的公司。可是他们又说,如果他们是金字塔而我们不要join的话,那么其他公司和系统都是金字塔式的。那为何当初要骗人说他们不是金字塔式公司呢?

世袭制:
这个东西是人找人嘛,再加上现在都是找年轻人。以前一段他们的理论,他们是金字塔公司,像上面的金字塔图片(我画的),都有一个底的嘛,人找人,到最后会 没有人,所以慢加入的人都很难成功的,你看到的成功例子通常都是早期加入的,或者在一个地区的早期人物。如果你这么告诉他们,他们会告诉你说人嘛,像蟑螂 一样会生孩子的。拜托,人要生一个孩子不知道有多难,还要怀孕九个月,养育成人又要十八年(根据system只有成年才能够join)。还有一点,就是这 个公司的system有世袭制制度,也就是说如果你pass away,你可以传给你的孩子。这样讲的话,这间公司的寿命有限,因为如果你要revive,你要等个十八年,而且不一定这些成人的都有机会成为你的下 线,因为他们可以继承他们父母的线。

激将法:
“其他人都做得到,为什么你做不到?”这句话也是你会很常听到的。这叫激将法。会挑起人性里不示弱的一面,你知道吗,生气的人常常都是最容易输的人。这就想打snooker一样,生气的人往往是输家。

一定有下线:
他们常常会画一个计划蓝图给你,就是你找五个人,你的下线找五个人,你下线的下线再找五个人。看过去好像可以性的。又或者说,你一个月找一个人,你的下线 也是,过几个月你就赚回来多少多少。听过去是那么好做的。还有,他们会说,你只要负责找人,他们会帮你搞定期他的事(就是帮你说服人加入),为什么他们这 么好心呢?因为他们有钱赚。

卖高价:
DCHL卖的产品比欧美卖得贵,而且是贵上几倍的价钱。他们会告诉你说,传统生意是出产商到经销商到运输商到什么什么商才到消费者手里,而他们这种新颖的 生意就是生产商到经销商到消费人手里,过程简单一点,可以价钱却比传统的生意还要贵。这是为什么呢?如果没那么贵,如果与会员们分利啊?如何付工钱给他的 员工们?如何付钱给政要人物帮他们擦嘴呢?

收集价值:
在你逛公司或者成为会员时,他们会告诉你说你看到的那些签名灯瓶(signature lamp)是多么名贵的,而且有收集价值,几年内就会升值。这就想一张纸钱,如果有印制问题,在一小部分人眼里是很值钱的,在绝大部分人眼里只是它那张纸 的价值,而在国家银行眼里它更本就是一张废纸。一样的道理,一个signature lamp,在很少人眼里它是值钱的(而且这些收集的人绝大多数在有新签名灯出来时都已经购买了,所以你要卖给他们他们是不会收的),在其他人眼里,他和平 时的灯没两样(也许会华丽一点),而在DCHL眼里呢?完全没价值,因为他们不回收。而且你在ebay找的话,可以以很便宜的价钱买这些瓶子。

不只那个价钱:
又是讲到钱,他们会告诉你说2345零吉你就能够买个经销商来玩玩。可是其实呢,在你还那个价钱之后,还有很多hidden fee的。由于是用他们的钱,所以我不知道多了多少hidden fee,会贵多几百。再加上你要参加很多培训班(有些十多块,有些几百块),你投资的钱要三千左右。

保守秘密:
SYN在对一个可能会员讲解了business plan过后呢,他们会叫你keep a secret。因为他们会说,如果你现在告诉别人的话,其他人一定说不能够做的。除此以外,如果你告诉人的话,他们如果好奇去问人,搞不好他们会成为别人 的下线,那时候你就要捶心肝了。

Curiousity:
让人对他们刚到好奇也是SYN最常用的招数。
招数一 - 多加入一些人(某个gang),然后混很熟之后,退出那个gang的人。那时候人们就会好奇你做什么,那你就能一个一个去拉人进来。
招数二 - 在别人面前买贵贵的东西,人们自然会好奇你哪来这么多钱买东西。那时候你就有机会引诱那人进来。
招数三 - 他们在和你讲plan时,不会告诉你所有东西的。如果你有问题,他们会说,“现在我告诉你的只是皮毛,等你加入后,你就会懂得更多。”

退货:
很多人要退出时就是,就是遇到不能refundable的问题。问题出在哪里呢?第一,只要产品用过就不能退。第二,签名灯不能退。第三,推给你的钱是扣 除你赚到的钱的。我不知道一个上线,在他下线退出之后他的所得会不会减少(那位LB仔可以告诉我?),不过很奇怪的就是上限们都尽量不要下线们离开。
还有,当你cancel你的会员时,你的下线们是直接成为你上线的下线,所以他们会赚得更多一点。

没人失败过:
“这盘生意里,每个人都有机会成功。那些失败的人,都是放弃的人。”这句话也是在SYN里面听到你会背。很多话他们讲的就想呼吸那么简单,听都听累了。你 要知道,人放弃一定有他的原因,不是说这些人都是失败者,而是你这个生意真的不是很适合所有人,而且真正能成功的人,比那些不成功的人少。再加上,不成功 的例子,你们一定会打入冷宫里,绝口不提。

文化:
除了拍手文化(拍一次赚一千),穿西装也是他们的文化之一。为什么呢?这样子可以提高他们公司的image。这确实给外人很impress的东西,因为人 靠衣装,你穿得好,人家也respect你一点。可怜的是,很多加入这行生意的人起初就没钱,试问他们哪来的钱买西转啊?他们带他们的prospect去 比较正式的场合,例如公司,talks,trainings等等都要穿西装的。老实说,我觉得这样很没有生活。给他们来说,不穿西装就不是做生意。你看到 那个路边卖冰淇淋的老伯穿着西装打领带卖冰淇淋给我吗?那不叫生意吗?只要什么叫做披着羊皮的狼吗?

自己还自己的:
他们常常夸口说自己赚了多少多少。可是呢,每次我出去和他们吃mamak时,我就叫了一杯teh-o ice,他们坚持要我自己还。理由?就是说想要我用我自己的钱,这样才会珍惜。我就是因为珍惜我的钱才希望你帮我还的,都不知道我为了陪你们(其实是你们 陪我消遣),让我花了多少钱。

打工不是人做的:

他们会告诉你说打工多辛苦多辛苦那样,然后告诉你说做他们那行等与自己做老板。他们这不叫做老板,他们叫做还钱做打工仔,而且要做得很辛苦。不过我 觉得其他失业的人应该要很高兴,如果全部打工的人都做SYN的打工仔,那你们就比较容易找到工作了。SYN的想法很奇怪,他们的ideal目标是全世界的 人都在做他们的行业。那到时候这世界就没有生产了。那些一边打工一边做LB的,他们说他们都是用公司电话来做LB。
创业不是人做的:

如上,他们会说你创业的是没有流动资金的,而且很risky。如果你不愿意冒险的话,你就不叫做Entrepreneuer?还有,你有自己的事业 就表示有自己的资产。创业难守业更难。如果你觉得加入这行业是因为它简单的话,我告诉你你注定失败的。这一行他看似简单,说起来简单,做起来比任何行业还 难。

很多年轻人:

如果你到他们的会场去看,你会发现90%的人是很年轻的。为什么他们target年轻人?大多年轻人都是没有钱,而且很容易被钱迷惑的(有钱人是不加入这行业的)。再加上年轻人嘛,比较会打拼,梦也比较多,所以比较会拉人。这就是年轻的好处。
很多人做:

在NDO中,我听到一个让我笑的演讲。那人说以前他开一件店,起初生意很好,结果越做越差,因为到后来越来越多人做,竞争大。说着说着,他说到后 来,说LB怎么做不起?这么多人都在做,为什么做不起?老哥,你讲话没有发现自己很矛盾吗?还有,这世上只有一个bill gates,你们一定要跟他比,那么多IT公司,会成功的也只有少数几间罢了。
新加坡Sentosa之旅:

在七月,SYN将会包下整个Sentosa来party。为什么会这么多人去呢?在四月尾时,如果你买个count,你的上线还有你的上线的上线将 会sponsor你去sentosa,他们那些钱哪里来的呢?是从comission那里来的,简单的说是你的钱。SYN在这次的trip中,像其他的 talk一样,还收多余的钱呢。你说怎么不会赚钱(SYN)?
还现金:

很奇怪的是当你决定加入会员时,他们会尽量鼓励你还现金,刷卡是接下来的选择。我觉得那些刷卡的人真的真的很笨,你们都已经没有钱了,你们还用刷卡来加入会员,不是一两百好不好?是几万块钱!你们会赚钱还掉你的卡债还好,可是很多人都做不起来,做到最后变成卡奴。

没有receipt:

在我加入后,我是没有收到receipt的。而且他们不让我去看手续如何办理,而不让我去选择我自己喜欢的灯瓶。不到十块钱的东西我都要求receipt,这种几千几万块钱的东西没有receipt?
做慈善:

SYN的人说他们赚到的钱是拿来做慈善的。可是我看到的是,只有少数几个上面的来做慈善,其他赚钱的呢?他们的钱拿来买名车。可是那几个人做的慈善,捐的钱,比他们说他们赚到的钱,要少很多很多。而且它们只是久久捐一次,捐给那些政党所举办的慈善活动。
透明度:

他们会告诉你说你可以知道所有人每个月赚多少钱。他们为何这样说呢?因为他们的每个阶级都有一个勋章,每个勋章都代表你可以每个月赚多少。可是如果 那些直接买比较高阶级的人,他们也有勋章,可是那不代表他们会赚你说的钱。还有,他们说你知道其他人赚多少钱,其实是用纸和笔算出来的。老大,你所谓的透 明度是口头上的透明,我希望能看到的是数字。
培训班:

你加入SYN后不是说你能直接做的。你还有去上无数个培训班(人称洗脑班)。这些培训课程可不是免费的,一场也要几十块,而且很不方面(给有工作的人)。
Be Positive:

确实很多烂人加入SYN后,他们个人成长。我为这些人高兴。不过SYN总喜欢叫人要想积极的东西,不要看负面的东西,所以他们遇到什么问题就用 think positively来自我安慰。简单例子:那天我在车里,我说blog有人写关于LB的坏话,他们马上说不要看那些网站,要think positively,不要接触任何类似的东西。难怪SYN的人那么少上网。而且他们的think positively是选择性的,而且是盲目的。

未成年:

未成年人加入MLM是非法的,公司的规定也是这样。可是如果你仔细去找找看,你会发现说,其实也有很多未成年的。为什么这些未成年的人可以加入呢?因为他们是用其他的名来做,例如他们的老爸老妈,他们的老哥,我觉得这些人最危险,除了什么事怎么死的都不知道。
社会问题:

借钱借钱就是在你加入之前他们会告诉你的。报纸也等过,这个借钱issue不知道造成多少社会问题。他们会告诉你说,如果你借钱的话,你会去想还这些钱,然后你会全心去做。可是多少人做不起来,又欠一身债。 这行业如果有所谓的保障的话,那银行是第一个借你钱的。
扩张社交圈:

你加入SYN后,你的社交圈会扩大,可以认识很多人,有什么需要都有人能帮得到你。确实你能认识的人会很多很多,不过你会发现你的社交范围将会局限 于SYN里面的人,SYN圈外的人会越来越少,离开你的人也会越来越多。好吧,think positively,把你外面的朋友拉入SYN不就搞定?你交朋友的目的不再是朋友,而是为钱。
Steven Yeam可以随时kick人:

除此以外,虽然他们告诉你说你买个franchisee后,你就是自己的老板。可是你知道吗,SYN的头头Steven Yeam可以随时把你踢出去的(如果你做任何不顺他的事)。你是跟DCHL买franchisee,可是让我好奇的,Steven Yeam有这个权力取消你的franchisee(又不还你钱的那种)吗?你现在说你是做老板呢,还是打工?

Tax-free:

发现道,在你还没赚到每个月几万块的数目前,你其实是不用保税的!这个让我很忧心,税务局的人怎么不来调查这些人啊?如果你赚到太多了,不能逃税时,有什么解决办法呢?他们告诉我的办法时,你用你的名来注册一间公司,来报税。
Risk-free:

他们很厉害,一开始说是very low risk,然后把very low risk和no risk挂成等号。我不觉得这行业very low risk,给那些不适合的人,简直就是很高风险的。
不是说LB不能做,只是想说,这生意比较适合那些会不择手段达到目的的人。我是那个人,不过我的目的是不同的。如果你觉得你适合的话,那你就去做。如果你对这行业有什么看法的话,不妨在你的blog里写出来。

Beware of These Businesses and Products, Warn your family & friends

Nowaday scams or businesses of similar  in  nature  are so rampant in our
country. There are so many similar cases happening everyday in our country.
The sad thing is many of this victims are the "kampong" people who is not
aware of this scammed. It's our very duty as a learned people whom was
equip with internet and media to spread this news, so that we
can  stop others from being scammed.  Do not be fool by the tactics
conducted by this brilliant company or individual. Their method are very
soft and slick that you would not able to identify their dirty
trick. It is traditionally known that these company or individual will used
people in high ranking status such as YB's, MP, Senior Gov't Officer and
Leaders of the public to lobby their schemes.

Here are some MLM business that have caused many people to lost money,
trust and friends;

a) RZ Corporation(better known as SYN, Lampe Berger or DCHL) - started with
selling fragrance products from France but misleading consumers as
aromatheraphy and essential oils products here. Recently, their fragrance
products sale dropped and now they pay more attention to the overpriced
Estebel Cosmetics;

b) Bel_Air fragrance products - started by the same Taiwanese that started
selling Lampe Berger products in Asia, switched to another brand Bel_Air,
also overclaimed as aromateraphy products.

c) QuestNet - This Company located in Amcorp Mall is previously named
GoldQuest. They also use other names like QuestVacation or Quest
Technology. Recruiting members to pay around RM3,000 to join a business
scheme without
much value-for-money products;

d) SWISSCASH - This don't have any products or office. It claimed to be
backed up by the Swiss Mutual Fund(since 1948) and the Swiss Government but
actually not. The Swiss Embassy in Malaysia already made the announcement
there is no such business as SwissCash or Swiss Mutual Fund in Switzerland.

e) MGM - selling some none value insurance policy;

f) Em-Pay - quite similar to SwissCash but claimed to be American owned but
actually Malaysian owned.

g) IPCshopping & R-link2u - claimed to be from China and HK but actually
Malaysian owned.

h) UA - UniAssets, owned by Hongkies and a Malaysian lady named Angel, that
get investors to pay big sum. Office formerly located at Level 6, Menara
Keck Seng at Bukit Bintang but shifted to somewhere in Taman Tun Razak
now..

i) Products SCAMs like BioYoung and XKL. BioYoung
claimed to be "US Formula" while XKL claimed invented by an American with
factory from US and BOTH claimed US200 Million R & D and BOTH could not
produce any ADDRESS or Contact from US. The excuse, as usual, "business
secrets".

j) SITO "oxygen" water - Am sure many have seen or heard of this 350ml blue
bottled water that sold for RM4(now droppedto RM2.50). Water is H2O, how
much more oxygen can you force into a 350ml filled water bottle that cost
RM2.50. Never trust this Company or any of their products that claimed to
be owned or related to Selangor government. Recently, they came out with a
new trick, building a 6 star oxygen resort in Genting but the scam foiled.
Their sales dropped miserably lately. Aiming for Malay market now.

k) www.mydinar.net - more and more victims now.

l) SNE healthfood that claimed to be from China with US FDA approved. They
are very well knowned for using a lot of users' testimonials but recently reported
in the Chinese papers that their products are found to contain some form of
poisonous steroids after one of the user, a 50+ years old diabetes patient
passed away after few months of consuming their products. My research also
found that the US FDA approval don't relate to their product or
manufacturer.

There are many non-products "investment" scams like SwissCash recently.
I advise everyone NOT to victimise their friends for getting involved in
such scams. Never never believe anyone whether they are legal or not. Most
of them are legal but if you do not get any VALUE-FOR-MONEY products in
return for the money you pay, it's a SCAM, no doubt. Avoid it before you
ruin your own future.

taken from http://bbpsearch.com/forum/simple/index.php?t7795.html